santa cruz sound card

Santa Cruz sound card

I have a turtle beach santa cruz sound card, and it's the only thing left that still doesn't work. Anyone had any luck getting this to work? Any drivers out there anyone knows of?

No, and it won't be. It is no longer supported by the Manufacturer. Check their web site. Paula
"mindspin311" wrote in message

I have a turtle beach santa cruz sound card, and it's the only thing left that still doesn't work. Anyone had any luck getting this to work? Any drivers out there anyone knows of?

http://support.turtlebeach.com/site/kb_ftp/585117847.asp
"Paula" wrote in message

No, and it won't be. It is no longer supported by the Manufacturer. Check their web site. Paula
"mindspin311" wrote in message I have a turtle beach santa cruz sound card, and it's the only thing left that still doesn't work. Anyone had any luck getting this to work? Any drivers out there anyone knows of?

***Pssst Paula. Yes and it will be forever.** Oh noooooo--Paula! The guy needs his music.
What won't be forever is such a lame name like Vister for a Windoz OS. You can make TBSC work on Longhorn/Vister, Blackomb/Vienna and whichever ski resort MSFTies like to go and get 10 sheets to the wind at. What scares me about "Vienna" is a bunch of partying 'Softies' runnin around crazy and faced in the land of Motzart--just like at the Longhorn--a scary vision indeed.
You can make TBSC work perfectly on any build of Vister since they been hatchin it--what's also frightening is that they be half way through its gestation period, and fundamenatal components simply do not work in the crisp yuppily phrased gadget esconsed Redmond world that manufactured the meaningless term "feature complete". Also it's very premature to apply the Madison Avenue Seattle/Richland Washington phrase/mantra "clear, confident, and connected." We're far from anywhere near that. My gawd if I'm lookin' at all the features let's hope they are far from complete and very embryonic. I fear that this OS will be born with congenitally hypoplastic major organs at that rate it's going and hardly be viable--and its CPR tools are broken right now.
I
wish, I wish I had a nickle for every sound expert including the BT's from Creative who proclaim that you can never get a VTBSC sound card workin in ole Vister. They is jist dead wrong. Of course ya can.
There is always teaching pearls in every workaround/mod/and adaptation on the fly and the one in this one is this here one :
********If the drivers are WDM drivers then they should integrate with Vista (atm anyways)******* **They are WDM, but the key part of it this workaround is copying the control panel from XP to Vister; the control panel that comes with it since everything on it is hardware pbased the control panels manages it all**
Of course it will work Paula/Paula/Paula!!!!! remember Windows is made by that company that used to say "Where do ya wanna go" in it's banal/and supremely boring 35 minute XP commercial in setup. Now Google has paid Dell to camp out on some of that Vister setup real estate and desktop.
I'm fairly meek and awestruck with the plethora of computer/Windoz expertise on these newsgroups but of course you can make a Turtle Beach sound card work in Vista. Whatcha gotta learn is just cause them people says something and they are some kind of company on a web site--it don't gotta never be true. So I'll show ya how with all respectfulisms due to Ms. Paula from the scenic land of No Spam, Noneville. It ain't "no Turtle Beach Paula." It's absolutely Turtle Beach blaring on Vister.
Mindspin--let's get the party started so you can upload music on your space and Paula can get up and dance to it. Santa Cruz made high quality sound cards. Yeah they made them when MSFT made the lowest quality OS on earth ME because the OEMs were hungry for profit and MSFT was willing to ship mush in a 16 bit/32 bit hybrid monstrosity called ME. That Billy and Jimmy Alchin could wave to those choppers off the Redmond campus with SEGs on their face shows ya how strong they are. There is Machiavelli in every forebrain.
If you follow these steps, you will get Santa Cruz Turtle Beach working in no time. I'd be glad to post proof that it does with the Vista notification area option icon and my VSCTB files and some tunes.
Here's
how:
If
you have any problems or questions please post up in this here space and I'll help ya make Santacruz work. It works darn well in ole Vister. Unfortunately though, it looks like a plethora of crucial components are on a freight train not to work because of PM tin ears. Note that accountants like to call the shots at MSFT often instead of computer science trained engineers.
This here thing is pure unadulterated nonsense as to whether TB will work in ole Vister. http://support.turtlebeach.com/site/kb_ftp/585117847.asp What I done read is that it says new technologies has come; and that they retired the sound card drivers. That has zero to do with whether TB plays great music on Vister. This reference got a whole lotta stuff on VTBSC in it, but it's not necessary to read it--I just threw it in for a little context: http://support.turtlebeach.com/site/kb_ftp/585.asp
So to get you some music and sounds: (The Queen Latifah/Bill Gates couple launching MCE 2005 is one of my fave clips--chemistry exudes and a melding of the minds is just over the top with those two). I can see Queen Latifah focused like a laser on those Charles Petzold hex equations and feedback loops in Billy's head.
*How to Install VTBSC Sound Card on Vista***
BTW you will see ubiqutiously and more ubiquitiser on the web that people will refer you to try to use the Crystal Chip Set drivers--because Crystal makes the chip set for TBSC. The Turtle Beach Santa Cruz card uses the **cs46xx chipset The CS4630 used on the Santa Cruz was made by Crystal Semiconductor/Cirrus Logic. That's interesting info but as to using them-- Faheddaboutdit as the guys at the Bing always say. There are difficult to find and don't work well once you've expended all that time so don't.
***Do this:***
1) You need to run a Win XP with a TBSC 4161S driver installed on the XP partition/drive. 1 primary and 1 extended with a logical partition for your Vista partition and they will both "see" each other as they are both active. That is the only way the Turtle Beach recommended method will work.
The drivers come from here: http://www.turtlebeach.com/site/kb_ftp/585ftp.asp
2) Then install the 4193 TBSC driver on ole Vister. It'll install the software and may error out on the unsigned driver, but don't sweat the error.
3) Then on Vista, Before rebooting, go to Device Manager and manually update the Santa CruzT or the Multimedia Audio Controller that is possibly question marked. Browse to the Program Files\Turtle Beach\Santa Cruz\Driver\WDM folder on the XP partition and Device Manager's wizard will install the signed 4161s on Vista as well as the XP boot.. BTW you'll find that many drivers that are difficult to get Vista to accept, will be installed just fine if you select on the wiz "I'll install from my own location" then browse to where the driver files are located.
4)
You must install this VTBSC control panel for this little equation to work.
5) Copy the Santa Cruz Control Panel from your XP drive where it is installed, for example if XP were installed on C:\ to the drive or partition where Vista is installed. On C:\ this would be located at C:\Program Files\Turtle Beach\Santa Cruz\Control Panel
6) Reboot and you have sound and you can use that Turtle Beach card for anything that the descendants of Jim Allchin will throw atcha.
Good
Luck,
CH
"mindspin311" wrote in message

I have a turtle beach santa cruz sound card, and it's the only thing left that still doesn't work. Anyone had any luck getting this to work? Any drivers out there anyone knows of?

Sober up.
"Chad Harris" <mail.MSFTturnssearchesovertogov.net> wrote in message

***Pssst Paula. Yes and it will be forever.** Oh noooooo--Paula! The guy needs his music.
What won't be forever is such a lame name like Vister for a Windoz OS. You can make TBSC work on Longhorn/Vister, Blackomb/Vienna and whichever ski resort MSFTies like to go and get 10 sheets to the wind at. What scares me about "Vienna" is a bunch of partying 'Softies' runnin around crazy and faced in the land of Motzart--just like at the Longhorn--a scary vision indeed.
You can make TBSC work perfectly on any build of Vister since they been hatchin it--what's also frightening is that they be half way through its gestation period, and fundamenatal components simply do not work in the crisp yuppily phrased gadget esconsed Redmond world that manufactured the meaningless term "feature complete". Also it's very premature to apply the Madison Avenue Seattle/Richland Washington phrase/mantra "clear, confident, and connected." We're far from anywhere near that. My gawd if I'm lookin' at all the features let's hope they are far from complete and very embryonic. I fear that this OS will be born with congenitally hypoplastic major organs at that rate it's going and hardly be viable--and its CPR tools are broken right now.
I wish, I wish I had a nickle for every sound expert including the BT's from Creative who proclaim that you can never get a VTBSC sound card workin in ole Vister. They is jist dead wrong. Of course ya can.
There is always teaching pearls in every workaround/mod/and adaptation on the fly and the one in this one is this here one :
********If the drivers are WDM drivers then they should integrate with Vista (atm anyways)******* **They are WDM, but the key part of it this workaround is copying the control panel from XP to Vister; the control panel that comes with it since everything on it is hardware pbased the control panels manages it all**
Of course it will work Paula/Paula/Paula!!!!! remember Windows is made by that company that used to say "Where do ya wanna go" in it's banal/and supremely boring 35 minute XP commercial in setup. Now Google has paid Dell to camp out on some of that Vister setup real estate and desktop.
I'm fairly meek and awestruck with the plethora of computer/Windoz expertise on these newsgroups but of course you can make a Turtle Beach sound card work in Vista. Whatcha gotta learn is just cause them people says something and they are some kind of company on a web site--it don't gotta never be true. So I'll show ya how with all respectfulisms due to Ms. Paula from the scenic land of No Spam, Noneville. It ain't "no Turtle Beach Paula." It's absolutely Turtle Beach blaring on Vister.
Mindspin--let's get the party started so you can upload music on your space and Paula can get up and dance to it. Santa Cruz made high quality sound cards. Yeah they made them when MSFT made the lowest quality OS on earth ME because the OEMs were hungry for profit and MSFT was willing to ship mush in a 16 bit/32 bit hybrid monstrosity called ME. That Billy and Jimmy Alchin could wave to those choppers off the Redmond campus with SEGs on their face shows ya how strong they are. There is Machiavelli in every forebrain.
If you follow these steps, you will get Santa Cruz Turtle Beach working in no time. I'd be glad to post proof that it does with the Vista notification area option icon and my VSCTB files and some tunes.
Here's how:
If you have any problems or questions please post up in this here space and I'll help ya make Santacruz work. It works darn well in ole Vister. Unfortunately though, it looks like a plethora of crucial components are on a freight train not to work because of PM tin ears. Note that accountants like to call the shots at MSFT often instead of computer science trained engineers.
This here thing is pure unadulterated nonsense as to whether TB will work in ole Vister. http://support.turtlebeach.com/site/kb_ftp/585117847.asp What I done read is that it says new technologies has come; and that they retired the sound card drivers. That has zero to do with whether TB plays great music on Vister. This reference got a whole lotta stuff on VTBSC in it, but it's not necessary to read it--I just threw it in for a little context: http://support.turtlebeach.com/site/kb_ftp/585.asp
So to get you some music and sounds: (The Queen Latifah/Bill Gates couple launching MCE 2005 is one of my fave clips--chemistry exudes and a melding of the minds is just over the top with those two). I can see Queen Latifah focused like a laser on those Charles Petzold hex equations and feedback loops in Billy's head.
*How to Install VTBSC Sound Card on Vista***
BTW you will see ubiqutiously and more ubiquitiser on the web that people will refer you to try to use the Crystal Chip Set drivers--because Crystal makes the chip set for TBSC. The Turtle Beach Santa Cruz card uses the **cs46xx chipset The CS4630 used on the Santa Cruz was made by Crystal Semiconductor/Cirrus Logic. That's interesting info but as to using them-- Faheddaboutdit as the guys at the Bing always say. There are difficult to find and don't work well once you've expended all that time so don't.
***Do this:***
1) You need to run a Win XP with a TBSC 4161S driver installed on the XP partition/drive. 1 primary and 1 extended with a logical partition for your Vista partition and they will both "see" each other as they are both active. That is the only way the Turtle Beach recommended method will work.
The drivers come from here: http://www.turtlebeach.com/site/kb_ftp/585ftp.asp
2) Then install the 4193 TBSC driver on ole Vister. It'll install the software and may error out on the unsigned driver, but don't sweat the error.
3) Then on Vista, Before rebooting, go to Device Manager and manually update the Santa CruzT or the Multimedia Audio Controller that is possibly question marked. Browse to the Program Files\Turtle Beach\Santa Cruz\Driver\WDM folder on the XP partition and Device Manager's wizard will install the signed 4161s on Vista as well as the XP boot.. BTW you'll find that many drivers that are difficult to get Vista to accept, will be installed just fine if you select on the wiz "I'll install from my own location" then browse to where the driver files are located.
4) You must install this VTBSC control panel for this little equation to work.
5) Copy the Santa Cruz Control Panel from your XP drive where it is installed, for example if XP were installed on C:\ to the drive or partition where Vista is installed. On C:\ this would be located at C:\Program Files\Turtle Beach\Santa Cruz\Control Panel
6) Reboot and you have sound and you can use that Turtle Beach card for anything that the descendants of Jim Allchin will throw atcha.
Good Luck,
CH
"mindspin311" wrote in message I have a turtle beach santa cruz sound card, and it's the only thing left that still doesn't work. Anyone had any luck getting this to work? Any drivers out there anyone knows of?

My goodness gracious. I don't know how sober you are lately Mr. Barnhorst, but I have music on TBSC and this isn't a "rehab forum." Ask Rush Limbaugh where those are. This thread is about how to get sound in Vista via a Turtle Beach card. I would welcome all the ancillary methods you have and look forward to reading them soon. I posted it because I saw someone giving the advice it couldn't be done, and sound is as far as I can discern, important to people on a computer.
I
take it you mean people who think they are hearing sound from a Santa Cruz card on Turtle Beach aren't sober? That they are under the influence of an intoxicating substance?
CH
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message

Sober up.
"Chad
Harris" <mail.MSFTturnssearchesovertogov.net> wrote in message ***Pssst Paula. Yes and it will be forever.** Oh noooooo--Paula! The guy needs his music.
What won't be forever is such a lame name like Vister for a Windoz OS. You can make TBSC work on Longhorn/Vister, Blackomb/Vienna and whichever ski resort MSFTies like to go and get 10 sheets to the wind at. What scares me about "Vienna" is a bunch of partying 'Softies' runnin around crazy and faced in the land of Motzart--just like at the Longhorn--a scary vision indeed.
You
can make TBSC work perfectly on any build of Vister since they been hatchin it--what's also frightening is that they be half way through its gestation period, and fundamenatal components simply do not work in the crisp yuppily phrased gadget esconsed Redmond world that manufactured the meaningless term "feature complete". Also it's very premature to apply the Madison Avenue Seattle/Richland Washington phrase/mantra "clear, confident, and connected." We're far from anywhere near that. My gawd if I'm lookin' at all the features let's hope they are far from complete and very embryonic. I fear that this OS will be born with congenitally hypoplastic major organs at that rate it's going and hardly be viable--and its CPR tools are broken right now.
I wish, I wish I had a nickle for every sound expert including the BT's from Creative who proclaim that you can never get a VTBSC sound card workin in ole Vister. They is jist dead wrong. Of course ya can.
There is always teaching pearls in every workaround/mod/and adaptation on the fly and the one in this one is this here one :
********If the drivers are WDM drivers then they should integrate with Vista (atm anyways)******* **They are WDM, but the key part of it this workaround is copying the control panel from XP to Vister; the control panel that comes with it since everything on it is hardware pbased the control panels manages it all**
Of course it will work Paula/Paula/Paula!!!!! remember Windows is made by that company that used to say "Where do ya wanna go" in it's banal/and supremely boring 35 minute XP commercial in setup. Now Google has paid Dell to camp out on some of that Vister setup real estate and desktop.
I'm fairly meek and awestruck with the plethora of computer/Windoz expertise on these newsgroups but of course you can make a Turtle Beach sound card work in Vista. Whatcha gotta learn is just cause them people says something and they are some kind of company on a web site--it don't gotta never be true. So I'll show ya how with all respectfulisms due to Ms. Paula from the scenic land of No Spam, Noneville. It ain't "no Turtle Beach Paula." It's absolutely Turtle Beach blaring on Vister.
Mindspin--let's get the party started so you can upload music on your space and Paula can get up and dance to it. Santa Cruz made high quality sound cards. Yeah they made them when MSFT made the lowest quality OS on earth ME because the OEMs were hungry for profit and MSFT was willing to ship mush in a 16 bit/32 bit hybrid monstrosity called ME. That Billy and Jimmy Alchin could wave to those choppers off the Redmond campus with SEGs on their face shows ya how strong they are. There is Machiavelli in every forebrain.
If you follow these steps, you will get Santa Cruz Turtle Beach working in no time. I'd be glad to post proof that it does with the Vista notification area option icon and my VSCTB files and some tunes.
Here's how:
If you have any problems or questions please post up in this here space and I'll help ya make Santacruz work. It works darn well in ole Vister. Unfortunately though, it looks like a plethora of crucial components are on a freight train not to work because of PM tin ears. Note that accountants like to call the shots at MSFT often instead of computer science trained engineers.
This here thing is pure unadulterated nonsense as to whether TB will work in ole Vister. http://support.turtlebeach.com/site/kb_ftp/585117847.asp What I done read is that it says new technologies has come; and that they retired the sound card drivers. That has zero to do with whether TB plays great music on Vister. This reference got a whole lotta stuff on VTBSC in it, but it's not necessary to read it--I just threw it in for a little context: http://support.turtlebeach.com/site/kb_ftp/585.asp
So to get you some music and sounds: (The Queen Latifah/Bill Gates couple launching MCE 2005 is one of my fave clips--chemistry exudes and a melding of the minds is just over the top with those two). I can see Queen Latifah focused like a laser on those Charles Petzold hex equations and feedback loops in Billy's head.
*How to Install VTBSC Sound Card on Vista***
BTW you will see ubiqutiously and more ubiquitiser on the web that people will refer you to try to use the Crystal Chip Set drivers--because Crystal makes the chip set for TBSC. The Turtle Beach Santa Cruz card uses the **cs46xx chipset The CS4630 used on the Santa Cruz was made by Crystal Semiconductor/Cirrus Logic. That's interesting info but as to using them-- Faheddaboutdit as the guys at the Bing always say. There are difficult to find and don't work well once you've expended all that time so don't.
***Do this:***
1) You need to run a Win XP with a TBSC 4161S driver installed on the XP partition/drive. 1 primary and 1 extended with a logical partition for your Vista partition and they will both "see" each other as they are both active. That is the only way the Turtle Beach recommended method will work.
The drivers come from here: http://www.turtlebeach.com/site/kb_ftp/585ftp.asp
2) Then install the 4193 TBSC driver on ole Vister. It'll install the software and may error out on the unsigned driver, but don't sweat the error.
3) Then on Vista, Before rebooting, go to Device Manager and manually update the Santa CruzT or the Multimedia Audio Controller that is possibly question marked. Browse to the Program Files\Turtle Beach\Santa Cruz\Driver\WDM folder on the XP partition and Device Manager's wizard will install the signed 4161s on Vista as well as the XP boot.. BTW you'll find that many drivers that are difficult to get Vista to accept, will be installed just fine if you select on the wiz "I'll install from my own location" then browse to where the driver files are located.
4) You must install this VTBSC control panel for this little equation to work.
5) Copy the Santa Cruz Control Panel from your XP drive where it is installed, for example if XP were installed on C:\ to the drive or partition where Vista is installed. On C:\ this would be located at C:\Program Files\Turtle Beach\Santa Cruz\Control Panel
6) Reboot and you have sound and you can use that Turtle Beach card for anything that the descendants of Jim Allchin will throw atcha.
Good Luck,
CH
"mindspin311" wrote in message I have a turtle beach santa cruz sound card, and it's the only thing left that still doesn't work. Anyone had any luck getting this to work? Any drivers out there anyone knows of?

They only fly in the ointment I see is that many newbies have already updated, yes updated their only computer with no partition to ole Vister. Heckins, many of them couldn't get how to burn an image!
So, yes, obviously your idea works for someone who can use more than the start button, but I dare you to come up with a way that works for the poor, poor soul who wanted to know why he couldn't get to 64-bit color in x64.
"Chad Harris" wrote:

***Pssst Paula. Yes and it will be forever.** Oh noooooo--Paula! The guy needs his music.
What won't be forever is such a lame name like Vister for a Windoz OS. You can make TBSC work on Longhorn/Vister, Blackomb/Vienna and whichever ski resort MSFTies like to go and get 10 sheets to the wind at. What scares me about "Vienna" is a bunch of partying 'Softies' runnin around crazy and faced in the land of Motzart--just like at the Longhorn--a scary vision indeed.
You can make TBSC work perfectly on any build of Vister since they been hatchin it--what's also frightening is that they be half way through its gestation period, and fundamenatal components simply do not work in the crisp yuppily phrased gadget esconsed Redmond world that manufactured the meaningless term "feature complete". Also it's very premature to apply the Madison Avenue Seattle/Richland Washington phrase/mantra "clear, confident, and connected." We're far from anywhere near that. My gawd if I'm lookin' at all the features let's hope they are far from complete and very embryonic. I fear that this OS will be born with congenitally hypoplastic major organs at that rate it's going and hardly be viable--and its CPR tools are broken right now.
I wish, I wish I had a nickle for every sound expert including the BT's from Creative who proclaim that you can never get a VTBSC sound card workin in ole Vister. They is jist dead wrong. Of course ya can.
There is always teaching pearls in every workaround/mod/and adaptation on the fly and the one in this one is this here one :
********If the drivers are WDM drivers then they should integrate with Vista (atm anyways)******* **They are WDM, but the key part of it this workaround is copying the control panel from XP to Vister; the control panel that comes with it since everything on it is hardware pbased the control panels manages it all**
Of course it will work Paula/Paula/Paula!!!!! remember Windows is made by that company that used to say "Where do ya wanna go" in it's banal/and supremely boring 35 minute XP commercial in setup. Now Google has paid Dell to camp out on some of that Vister setup real estate and desktop.
I'm fairly meek and awestruck with the plethora of computer/Windoz expertise on these newsgroups but of course you can make a Turtle Beach sound card work in Vista. Whatcha gotta learn is just cause them people says something and they are some kind of company on a web site--it don't gotta never be true. So I'll show ya how with all respectfulisms due to Ms. Paula from the scenic land of No Spam, Noneville. It ain't "no Turtle Beach Paula." It's absolutely Turtle Beach blaring on Vister.
Mindspin--let's get the party started so you can upload music on your space and Paula can get up and dance to it. Santa Cruz made high quality sound cards. Yeah they made them when MSFT made the lowest quality OS on earth ME because the OEMs were hungry for profit and MSFT was willing to ship mush in a 16 bit/32 bit hybrid monstrosity called ME. That Billy and Jimmy Alchin could wave to those choppers off the Redmond campus with SEGs on their face shows ya how strong they are. There is Machiavelli in every forebrain.
If
you follow these steps, you will get Santa Cruz Turtle Beach working in no time. I'd be glad to post proof that it does with the Vista notification area option icon and my VSCTB files and some tunes.
Here's how:
If you have any problems or questions please post up in this here space and I'll help ya make Santacruz work. It works darn well in ole Vister. Unfortunately though, it looks like a plethora of crucial components are on a freight train not to work because of PM tin ears. Note that accountants like to call the shots at MSFT often instead of computer science trained engineers.
This here thing is pure unadulterated nonsense as to whether TB will work in ole Vister. http://support.turtlebeach.com/site/kb_ftp/585117847.asp What I done read is that it says new technologies has come; and that they retired the sound card drivers. That has zero to do with whether TB plays great music on Vister. This reference got a whole lotta stuff on VTBSC in it, but it's not necessary to read it--I just threw it in for a little context: http://support.turtlebeach.com/site/kb_ftp/585.asp
So to get you some music and sounds: (The Queen Latifah/Bill Gates couple launching MCE 2005 is one of my fave clips--chemistry exudes and a melding of the minds is just over the top with those two). I can see Queen Latifah focused like a laser on those Charles Petzold hex equations and feedback loops in Billy's head.
*How to Install VTBSC Sound Card on Vista***
BTW you will see ubiqutiously and more ubiquitiser on the web that people will refer you to try to use the Crystal Chip Set drivers--because Crystal makes the chip set for TBSC. The Turtle Beach Santa Cruz card uses the **cs46xx chipset The CS4630 used on the Santa Cruz was made by Crystal Semiconductor/Cirrus Logic. That's interesting info but as to using them-- Faheddaboutdit as the guys at the Bing always say. There are difficult to find and don't work well once you've expended all that time so don't.
***Do this:***
1) You need to run a Win XP with a TBSC 4161S driver installed on the XP partition/drive. 1 primary and 1 extended with a logical partition for your Vista partition and they will both "see" each other as they are both active. That is the only way the Turtle Beach recommended method will work.
The drivers come from here: http://www.turtlebeach.com/site/kb_ftp/585ftp.asp
2) Then install the 4193 TBSC driver on ole Vister. It'll install the software and may error out on the unsigned driver, but don't sweat the error.
3)
Then on Vista, Before rebooting, go to Device Manager and manually update the Santa CruzT or the Multimedia Audio Controller that is possibly question marked. Browse to the Program Files\Turtle Beach\Santa Cruz\Driver\WDM folder on the XP partition and Device Manager's wizard will install the signed 4161s on Vista as well as the XP boot.. BTW you'll find that many drivers that are difficult to get Vista to accept, will be installed just fine if you select on the wiz "I'll install from my own location" then browse to where the driver files are located.
4) You must install this VTBSC control panel for this little equation to work.
5) Copy the Santa Cruz Control Panel from your XP drive where it is installed, for example if XP were installed on C:\ to the drive or partition where Vista is installed. On C:\ this would be located at C:\Program Files\Turtle Beach\Santa Cruz\Control Panel
6)
Reboot and you have sound and you can use that Turtle Beach card for anything that the descendants of Jim Allchin will throw atcha.
Good Luck,
CH
"mindspin311" wrote in message I have a turtle beach santa cruz sound card, and it's the only thing left that still doesn't work. Anyone had any luck getting this to work? Any drivers out there anyone knows of?

LOLOLOLOL GOOOOOOOOOOD GRIEF! Paula
"Chad Harris" <mail.MSFTturnssearchesovertogov.net> wrote in message

***Pssst Paula. Yes and it will be forever.** Oh noooooo--Paula! The guy needs his music.
What won't be forever is such a lame name like Vister for a Windoz OS. You can make TBSC work on Longhorn/Vister, Blackomb/Vienna and whichever ski resort MSFTies like to go and get 10 sheets to the wind at. What scares me about "Vienna" is a bunch of partying 'Softies' runnin around crazy and faced in the land of Motzart--just like at the Longhorn--a scary vision indeed.
You can make TBSC work perfectly on any build of Vister since they been hatchin it--what's also frightening is that they be half way through its gestation period, and fundamenatal components simply do not work in the crisp yuppily phrased gadget esconsed Redmond world that manufactured the meaningless term "feature complete". Also it's very premature to apply the Madison Avenue Seattle/Richland Washington phrase/mantra "clear, confident, and connected." We're far from anywhere near that. My gawd if I'm lookin' at all the features let's hope they are far from complete and very embryonic. I fear that this OS will be born with congenitally hypoplastic major organs at that rate it's going and hardly be viable--and its CPR tools are broken right now.
I wish, I wish I had a nickle for every sound expert including the BT's from Creative who proclaim that you can never get a VTBSC sound card workin in ole Vister. They is jist dead wrong. Of course ya can.
There is always teaching pearls in every workaround/mod/and adaptation on the fly and the one in this one is this here one :
********If the drivers are WDM drivers then they should integrate with Vista (atm anyways)******* **They are WDM, but the key part of it this workaround is copying the control panel from XP to Vister; the control panel that comes with it since everything on it is hardware pbased the control panels manages it all**
Of course it will work Paula/Paula/Paula!!!!! remember Windows is made by that company that used to say "Where do ya wanna go" in it's banal/and supremely boring 35 minute XP commercial in setup. Now Google has paid Dell to camp out on some of that Vister setup real estate and desktop.
I'm fairly meek and awestruck with the plethora of computer/Windoz expertise on these newsgroups but of course you can make a Turtle Beach sound card work in Vista. Whatcha gotta learn is just cause them people says something and they are some kind of company on a web site--it don't gotta never be true. So I'll show ya how with all respectfulisms due to Ms. Paula from the scenic land of No Spam, Noneville. It ain't "no Turtle Beach Paula." It's absolutely Turtle Beach blaring on Vister.
Mindspin--let's get the party started so you can upload music on your space and Paula can get up and dance to it. Santa Cruz made high quality sound cards. Yeah they made them when MSFT made the lowest quality OS on earth ME because the OEMs were hungry for profit and MSFT was willing to ship mush in a 16 bit/32 bit hybrid monstrosity called ME. That Billy and Jimmy Alchin could wave to those choppers off the Redmond campus with SEGs on their face shows ya how strong they are. There is Machiavelli in every forebrain.
If you follow these steps, you will get Santa Cruz Turtle Beach working in no time. I'd be glad to post proof that it does with the Vista notification area option icon and my VSCTB files and some tunes.
Here's how:
If you have any problems or questions please post up in this here space and I'll help ya make Santacruz work. It works darn well in ole Vister. Unfortunately though, it looks like a plethora of crucial components are on a freight train not to work because of PM tin ears. Note that accountants like to call the shots at MSFT often instead of computer science trained engineers.
This here thing is pure unadulterated nonsense as to whether TB will work in ole Vister. http://support.turtlebeach.com/site/kb_ftp/585117847.asp What I done read is that it says new technologies has come; and that they retired the sound card drivers. That has zero to do with whether TB plays great music on Vister. This reference got a whole lotta stuff on VTBSC in it, but it's not necessary to read it--I just threw it in for a little context: http://support.turtlebeach.com/site/kb_ftp/585.asp
So
to get you some music and sounds: (The Queen Latifah/Bill Gates couple launching MCE 2005 is one of my fave clips--chemistry exudes and a melding of the minds is just over the top with those two). I can see Queen Latifah focused like a laser on those Charles Petzold hex equations and feedback loops in Billy's head.
*How to Install VTBSC Sound Card on Vista***
BTW you will see ubiqutiously and more ubiquitiser on the web that people will refer you to try to use the Crystal Chip Set drivers--because Crystal makes the chip set for TBSC. The Turtle Beach Santa Cruz card uses the **cs46xx chipset The CS4630 used on the Santa Cruz was made by Crystal Semiconductor/Cirrus Logic. That's interesting info but as to using them-- Faheddaboutdit as the guys at the Bing always say. There are difficult to find and don't work well once you've expended all that time so don't.
***Do this:***
1) You need to run a Win XP with a TBSC 4161S driver installed on the XP partition/drive. 1 primary and 1 extended with a logical partition for your Vista partition and they will both "see" each other as they are both active. That is the only way the Turtle Beach recommended method will work.
The drivers come from here: http://www.turtlebeach.com/site/kb_ftp/585ftp.asp
2) Then install the 4193 TBSC driver on ole Vister. It'll install the software and may error out on the unsigned driver, but don't sweat the error.
3) Then on Vista, Before rebooting, go to Device Manager and manually update the Santa CruzT or the Multimedia Audio Controller that is possibly question marked. Browse to the Program Files\Turtle Beach\Santa Cruz\Driver\WDM folder on the XP partition and Device Manager's wizard will install the signed 4161s on Vista as well as the XP boot.. BTW you'll find that many drivers that are difficult to get Vista to accept, will be installed just fine if you select on the wiz "I'll install from my own location" then browse to where the driver files are located.
4) You must install this VTBSC control panel for this little equation to work.
5) Copy the Santa Cruz Control Panel from your XP drive where it is installed, for example if XP were installed on C:\ to the drive or partition where Vista is installed. On C:\ this would be located at C:\Program Files\Turtle Beach\Santa Cruz\Control Panel
6) Reboot and you have sound and you can use that Turtle Beach card for anything that the descendants of Jim Allchin will throw atcha.
Good Luck,
CH
"mindspin311" wrote in message I have a turtle beach santa cruz sound card, and it's the only thing left that still doesn't work. Anyone had any luck getting this to work? Any drivers out there anyone knows of?

Paula --
I know you mean well, but there's a difference between Paula can't get it to work in a series of one--Paula, and your making public proclamations that something does not work and will never work as if you've tested extensively and reached that conclusion. You have taken two mainstream routine drivers that will work perfectly in every Vista build and assumed based on a notion that they don't work, and announced they will never work.
They will work, and instead of just proclaiming they will, I've posted precisely how to make them work in seconds.
Voyetra Turtle Beach Sound Cards DO WORK. 3 Com 3C 905C TX Compatible (3C920) cards do work.
These are mainstream functionality--or do you know many happy campers who can't surf the net or play music on their boxes? Unlike you, Paula, Lucy would never have guessed that these items don't work in Vista; she would have made sure they do.
Oh, Good Grief! Vince Guaraldi, Peanuts (Related Recordings) http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000002KAM/002-9201580-7716043?v=glance&n=5174
http://www.eye.net/eye/issue/issue_03.25.04/city/panelist.html
CH

"Paula" wrote in message

LOLOLOLOL GOOOOOOOOOOD GRIEF! Paula
"Chad Harris" <mail.MSFTturnssearchesovertogov.net> wrote in message ***Pssst Paula. Yes and it will be forever.** Oh noooooo--Paula! The guy needs his music.
What won't be forever is such a lame name like Vister for a Windoz OS. You can make TBSC work on Longhorn/Vister, Blackomb/Vienna and whichever ski resort MSFTies like to go and get 10 sheets to the wind at. What scares me about "Vienna" is a bunch of partying 'Softies' runnin around crazy and faced in the land of Motzart--just like at the Longhorn--a scary vision indeed.
You can make TBSC work perfectly on any build of Vister since they been hatchin it--what's also frightening is that they be half way through its gestation period, and fundamenatal components simply do not work in the crisp yuppily phrased gadget esconsed Redmond world that manufactured the meaningless term "feature complete". Also it's very premature to apply the Madison Avenue Seattle/Richland Washington phrase/mantra "clear, confident, and connected." We're far from anywhere near that. My gawd if I'm lookin' at all the features let's hope they are far from complete and very embryonic. I fear that this OS will be born with congenitally hypoplastic major organs at that rate it's going and hardly be viable--and its CPR tools are broken right now.
I wish, I wish I had a nickle for every sound expert including the BT's from Creative who proclaim that you can never get a VTBSC sound card workin in ole Vister. They is jist dead wrong. Of course ya can.
There is always teaching pearls in every workaround/mod/and adaptation on the fly and the one in this one is this here one :
********If the drivers are WDM drivers then they should integrate with Vista (atm anyways)******* **They are WDM, but the key part of it this workaround is copying the control panel from XP to Vister; the control panel that comes with it since everything on it is hardware pbased the control panels manages it all**
Of course it will work Paula/Paula/Paula!!!!! remember Windows is made by that company that used to say "Where do ya wanna go" in it's banal/and supremely boring 35 minute XP commercial in setup. Now Google has paid Dell to camp out on some of that Vister setup real estate and desktop.
I'm fairly meek and awestruck with the plethora of computer/Windoz expertise on these newsgroups but of course you can make a Turtle Beach sound card work in Vista. Whatcha gotta learn is just cause them people says something and they are some kind of company on a web site--it don't gotta never be true. So I'll show ya how with all respectfulisms due to Ms. Paula from the scenic land of No Spam, Noneville. It ain't "no Turtle Beach Paula." It's absolutely Turtle Beach blaring on Vister.
Mindspin--let's get the party started so you can upload music on your space and Paula can get up and dance to it. Santa Cruz made high quality sound cards. Yeah they made them when MSFT made the lowest quality OS on earth ME because the OEMs were hungry for profit and MSFT was willing to ship mush in a 16 bit/32 bit hybrid monstrosity called ME. That Billy and Jimmy Alchin could wave to those choppers off the Redmond campus with SEGs on their face shows ya how strong they are. There is Machiavelli in every forebrain.
If you follow these steps, you will get Santa Cruz Turtle Beach working in no time. I'd be glad to post proof that it does with the Vista notification area option icon and my VSCTB files and some tunes.
Here's how:
If
you have any problems or questions please post up in this here space and I'll help ya make Santacruz work. It works darn well in ole Vister. Unfortunately though, it looks like a plethora of crucial components are on a freight train not to work because of PM tin ears. Note that accountants like to call the shots at MSFT often instead of computer science trained engineers.
This here thing is pure unadulterated nonsense as to whether TB will work in ole Vister. http://support.turtlebeach.com/site/kb_ftp/585117847.asp What I done read is that it says new technologies has come; and that they retired the sound card drivers. That has zero to do with whether TB plays great music on Vister. This reference got a whole lotta stuff on VTBSC in it, but it's not necessary to read it--I just threw it in for a little context: http://support.turtlebeach.com/site/kb_ftp/585.asp
So to get you some music and sounds: (The Queen Latifah/Bill Gates couple launching MCE 2005 is one of my fave clips--chemistry exudes and a melding of the minds is just over the top with those two). I can see Queen Latifah focused like a laser on those Charles Petzold hex equations and feedback loops in Billy's head.
*How to Install VTBSC Sound Card on Vista***
BTW
you will see ubiqutiously and more ubiquitiser on the web that people will refer you to try to use the Crystal Chip Set drivers--because Crystal makes the chip set for TBSC. The Turtle Beach Santa Cruz card uses the **cs46xx chipset The CS4630 used on the Santa Cruz was made by Crystal Semiconductor/Cirrus Logic. That's interesting info but as to using them-- Faheddaboutdit as the guys at the Bing always say. There are difficult to find and don't work well once you've expended all that time so don't.
***Do this:***
1) You need to run a Win XP with a TBSC 4161S driver installed on the XP partition/drive. 1 primary and 1 extended with a logical partition for your Vista partition and they will both "see" each other as they are both active. That is the only way the Turtle Beach recommended method will work.
The
drivers come from here: http://www.turtlebeach.com/site/kb_ftp/585ftp.asp
2) Then install the 4193 TBSC driver on ole Vister. It'll install the software and may error out on the unsigned driver, but don't sweat the error.
3) Then on Vista, Before rebooting, go to Device Manager and manually update the Santa CruzT or the Multimedia Audio Controller that is possibly question marked. Browse to the Program Files\Turtle Beach\Santa Cruz\Driver\WDM folder on the XP partition and Device Manager's wizard will install the signed 4161s on Vista as well as the XP boot.. BTW you'll find that many drivers that are difficult to get Vista to accept, will be installed just fine if you select on the wiz "I'll install from my own location" then browse to where the driver files are located.
4) You must install this VTBSC control panel for this little equation to work.
5) Copy the Santa Cruz Control Panel from your XP drive where it is installed, for example if XP were installed on C:\ to the drive or partition where Vista is installed. On C:\ this would be located at C:\Program Files\Turtle Beach\Santa Cruz\Control Panel
6) Reboot and you have sound and you can use that Turtle Beach card for anything that the descendants of Jim Allchin will throw atcha.
Good Luck,
CH
"mindspin311" wrote in message I have a turtle beach santa cruz sound card, and it's the only thing left that still doesn't work. Anyone had any luck getting this to work? Any drivers out there anyone knows of?

Chad, you forgot to take your lithium today, didn't you?
On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 05:23:17 -0400, "Chad Harris" <mail.MSFTturnssearchesovertogov.net> wrote:

My goodness gracious. I don't know how sober you are lately Mr. Barnhorst, but I have music on TBSC and this isn't a "rehab forum." Ask Rush Limbaugh where those are. This thread is about how to get sound in Vista via a Turtle Beach card. I would welcome all the ancillary methods you have and look forward to reading them soon. I posted it because I saw someone giving the advice it couldn't be done, and sound is as far as I can discern, important to people on a computer.
I take it you mean people who think they are hearing sound from a Santa Cruz card on Turtle Beach aren't sober? That they are under the influence of an intoxicating substance?
CH
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message Sober up.
"Chad Harris" <mail.MSFTturnssearchesovertogov.net> wrote in message ***Pssst Paula. Yes and it will be forever.** Oh noooooo--Paula! The guy needs his music.
What won't be forever is such a lame name like Vister for a Windoz OS. You can make TBSC work on Longhorn/Vister, Blackomb/Vienna and whichever ski resort MSFTies like to go and get 10 sheets to the wind at. What scares me about "Vienna" is a bunch of partying 'Softies' runnin around crazy and faced in the land of Motzart--just like at the Longhorn--a scary vision indeed.
You can make TBSC work perfectly on any build of Vister since they been hatchin it--what's also frightening is that they be half way through its gestation period, and fundamenatal components simply do not work in the crisp yuppily phrased gadget esconsed Redmond world that manufactured the meaningless term "feature complete". Also it's very premature to apply the Madison Avenue Seattle/Richland Washington phrase/mantra "clear, confident, and connected." We're far from anywhere near that. My gawd if I'm lookin' at all the features let's hope they are far from complete and very embryonic. I fear that this OS will be born with congenitally hypoplastic major organs at that rate it's going and hardly be viable--and its CPR tools are broken right now.
I wish, I wish I had a nickle for every sound expert including the BT's from Creative who proclaim that you can never get a VTBSC sound card workin in ole Vister. They is jist dead wrong. Of course ya can.
There
is always teaching pearls in every workaround/mod/and adaptation on the fly and the one in this one is this here one :
********If the drivers are WDM drivers then they should integrate with Vista (atm anyways)******* **They are WDM, but the key part of it this workaround is copying the control panel from XP to Vister; the control panel that comes with it since everything on it is hardware pbased the control panels manages it all**
Of course it will work Paula/Paula/Paula!!!!! remember Windows is made by that company that used to say "Where do ya wanna go" in it's banal/and supremely boring 35 minute XP commercial in setup. Now Google has paid Dell to camp out on some of that Vister setup real estate and desktop.
I'm fairly meek and awestruck with the plethora of computer/Windoz expertise on these newsgroups but of course you can make a Turtle Beach sound card work in Vista. Whatcha gotta learn is just cause them people says something and they are some kind of company on a web site--it don't gotta never be true. So I'll show ya how with all respectfulisms due to Ms. Paula from the scenic land of No Spam, Noneville. It ain't "no Turtle Beach Paula." It's absolutely Turtle Beach blaring on Vister.
Mindspin--let's get the party started so you can upload music on your space and Paula can get up and dance to it. Santa Cruz made high quality sound cards. Yeah they made them when MSFT made the lowest quality OS on earth ME because the OEMs were hungry for profit and MSFT was willing to ship mush in a 16 bit/32 bit hybrid monstrosity called ME. That Billy and Jimmy Alchin could wave to those choppers off the Redmond campus with SEGs on their face shows ya how strong they are. There is Machiavelli in every forebrain.
If you follow these steps, you will get Santa Cruz Turtle Beach working in no time. I'd be glad to post proof that it does with the Vista notification area option icon and my VSCTB files and some tunes.
Here's how:
If you have any problems or questions please post up in this here space and I'll help ya make Santacruz work. It works darn well in ole Vister. Unfortunately though, it looks like a plethora of crucial components are on a freight train not to work because of PM tin ears. Note that accountants like to call the shots at MSFT often instead of computer science trained engineers.
This
here thing is pure unadulterated nonsense as to whether TB will work in ole Vister. http://support.turtlebeach.com/site/kb_ftp/585117847.asp What I done read is that it says new technologies has come; and that they retired the sound card drivers. That has zero to do with whether TB plays great music on Vister. This reference got a whole lotta stuff on VTBSC in it, but it's not necessary to read it--I just threw it in for a little context: http://support.turtlebeach.com/site/kb_ftp/585.asp
So to get you some music and sounds: (The Queen Latifah/Bill Gates couple launching MCE 2005 is one of my fave clips--chemistry exudes and a melding of the minds is just over the top with those two). I can see Queen Latifah focused like a laser on those Charles Petzold hex equations and feedback loops in Billy's head.
*How to Install VTBSC Sound Card on Vista***
BTW you will see ubiqutiously and more ubiquitiser on the web that people will refer you to try to use the Crystal Chip Set drivers--because Crystal makes the chip set for TBSC. The Turtle Beach Santa Cruz card uses the **cs46xx chipset The CS4630 used on the Santa Cruz was made by Crystal Semiconductor/Cirrus Logic. That's interesting info but as to using them-- Faheddaboutdit as the guys at the Bing always say. There are difficult to find and don't work well once you've expended all that time so don't.
***Do this:***
1) You need to run a Win XP with a TBSC 4161S driver installed on the XP partition/drive. 1 primary and 1 extended with a logical partition for your Vista partition and they will both "see" each other as they are both active. That is the only way the Turtle Beach recommended method will work.
The drivers come from here: http://www.turtlebeach.com/site/kb_ftp/585ftp.asp
2) Then install the 4193 TBSC driver on ole Vister. It'll install the software and may error out on the unsigned driver, but don't sweat the error.
3) Then on Vista, Before rebooting, go to Device Manager and manually update the Santa CruzT or the Multimedia Audio Controller that is possibly question marked. Browse to the Program Files\Turtle Beach\Santa Cruz\Driver\WDM folder on the XP partition and Device Manager's wizard will install the signed 4161s on Vista as well as the XP boot.. BTW you'll find that many drivers that are difficult to get Vista to accept, will be installed just fine if you select on the wiz "I'll install from my own location" then browse to where the driver files are located.
4) You must install this VTBSC control panel for this little equation to work.
5)
Copy the Santa Cruz Control Panel from your XP drive where it is installed, for example if XP were installed on C:\ to the drive or partition where Vista is installed. On C:\ this would be located at C:\Program Files\Turtle Beach\Santa Cruz\Control Panel
6) Reboot and you have sound and you can use that Turtle Beach card for anything that the descendants of Jim Allchin will throw atcha.
Good Luck,
CH
"mindspin311" wrote in message I have a turtle beach santa cruz sound card, and it's the only thing left that still doesn't work. Anyone had any luck getting this to work? Any drivers out there anyone knows of?

Milleron keep posting your medical pearls. I really treasure the opportunity to learn medical pearls from people in here that can't even find the crash cart for Vista and couldn't get into the door of a med school.
If and when you spent a day catching real patients in a real ER, you'd quickly learn the difference between passion for getting things fixed that weren't fixed in XP and superficial people who can only post cheap medical epithets who couldn't get in the door of amed school. Since this isn't as far as I can tell a medical forum,and you don't as far as I can tell have a hell of a lot of clinical medicine under your belt, why don't you enlighten us with your pearls on
SFC Win RE System Restore
in Vista. Could it be that your clinical medical expertise and your Vista expertise are equally lacking? Look forward to any of either herel. LOL
Post all the MSFT documentation on their sites for Win RE, SFC, and SR while you're at it. Working well are they?
As far as I can tell the only post that gets music for the original poster using a Santa Cruz TB card and drivers is mine after ridiculous posts that they don't work. People who post from the experience in their imaginations really contribute. I like the "I don't think the driver will work because it's old" That's great computer science.
CH
"milleron" wrote in message

Chad, you forgot to take your lithium today, didn't you?
On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 05:23:17 -0400, "Chad Harris" mail.MSFTturnssearchesovertogov.net> wrote:
My goodness gracious. I don't know how sober you are lately Mr. Barnhorst, but I have music on TBSC and this isn't a "rehab forum." Ask Rush Limbaugh where those are. This thread is about how to get sound in Vista via a Turtle Beach card. I would welcome all the ancillary methods you have and look forward to reading them soon. I posted it because I saw someone giving the advice it couldn't be done, and sound is as far as I can discern, important to people on a computer.
I take it you mean people who think they are hearing sound from a Santa Cruz card on Turtle Beach aren't sober? That they are under the influence of an intoxicating substance?
CH
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message Sober up.
"Chad Harris" <mail.MSFTturnssearchesovertogov.net> wrote in message ***Pssst Paula. Yes and it will be forever.** Oh noooooo--Paula! The guy needs his music.
What won't be forever is such a lame name like Vister for a Windoz OS. You can make TBSC work on Longhorn/Vister, Blackomb/Vienna and whichever ski resort MSFTies like to go and get 10 sheets to the wind at. What scares me about "Vienna" is a bunch of partying 'Softies' runnin around crazy and faced in the land of Motzart--just like at the Longhorn--a scary vision indeed.
You can make TBSC work perfectly on any build of Vister since they been hatchin it--what's also frightening is that they be half way through its gestation period, and fundamenatal components simply do not work in the crisp yuppily phrased gadget esconsed Redmond world that manufactured the meaningless term "feature complete". Also it's very premature to apply the Madison Avenue Seattle/Richland Washington phrase/mantra "clear, confident, and connected." We're far from anywhere near that. My gawd if I'm lookin' at all the features let's hope they are far from complete and very embryonic. I fear that this OS will be born with congenitally hypoplastic major organs at that rate it's going and hardly be viable--and its CPR tools are broken right now.
I wish, I wish I had a nickle for every sound expert including the BT's from Creative who proclaim that you can never get a VTBSC sound card workin in ole Vister. They is jist dead wrong. Of course ya can.
There
is always teaching pearls in every workaround/mod/and adaptation on the fly and the one in this one is this here one :
********If the drivers are WDM drivers then they should integrate with Vista (atm anyways)******* **They are WDM, but the key part of it this workaround is copying the control panel from XP to Vister; the control panel that comes with it since everything on it is hardware pbased the control panels manages it all**
Of course it will work Paula/Paula/Paula!!!!! remember Windows is made by that company that used to say "Where do ya wanna go" in it's banal/and supremely boring 35 minute XP commercial in setup. Now Google has paid Dell to camp out on some of that Vister setup real estate and desktop.
I'm fairly meek and awestruck with the plethora of computer/Windoz expertise on these newsgroups but of course you can make a Turtle Beach sound card work in Vista. Whatcha gotta learn is just cause them people says something and they are some kind of company on a web site--it don't gotta never be true. So I'll show ya how with all respectfulisms due to Ms. Paula from the scenic land of No Spam, Noneville. It ain't "no Turtle Beach Paula." It's absolutely Turtle Beach blaring on Vister.
Mindspin--let's get the party started so you can upload music on your space and Paula can get up and dance to it. Santa Cruz made high quality sound cards. Yeah they made them when MSFT made the lowest quality OS on earth ME because the OEMs were hungry for profit and MSFT was willing to ship mush in a 16 bit/32 bit hybrid monstrosity called ME. That Billy and Jimmy Alchin could wave to those choppers off the Redmond campus with SEGs on their face shows ya how strong they are. There is Machiavelli in every forebrain.
If you follow these steps, you will get Santa Cruz Turtle Beach working in no time. I'd be glad to post proof that it does with the Vista notification area option icon and my VSCTB files and some tunes.
Here's how:
If you have any problems or questions please post up in this here space and I'll help ya make Santacruz work. It works darn well in ole Vister. Unfortunately though, it looks like a plethora of crucial components are on a freight train not to work because of PM tin ears. Note that accountants like to call the shots at MSFT often instead of computer science trained engineers.
This here thing is pure unadulterated nonsense as to whether TB will work in ole Vister. http://support.turtlebeach.com/site/kb_ftp/585117847.asp What I done read is that it says new technologies has come; and that they retired the sound card drivers. That has zero to do with whether TB plays great music on Vister. This reference got a whole lotta stuff on VTBSC in it, but it's not necessary to read it--I just threw it in for a little context: http://support.turtlebeach.com/site/kb_ftp/585.asp
So to get you some music and sounds: (The Queen Latifah/Bill Gates couple launching MCE 2005 is one of my fave clips--chemistry exudes and a melding of the minds is just over the top with those two). I can see Queen Latifah focused like a laser on those Charles Petzold hex equations and feedback loops in Billy's head.
*How
to Install VTBSC Sound Card on Vista***
BTW you will see ubiqutiously and more ubiquitiser on the web that people will refer you to try to use the Crystal Chip Set drivers--because Crystal makes the chip set for TBSC. The Turtle Beach Santa Cruz card uses the **cs46xx chipset The CS4630 used on the Santa Cruz was made by Crystal Semiconductor/Cirrus Logic. That's interesting info but as to using them-- Faheddaboutdit as the guys at the Bing always say. There are difficult to find and don't work well once you've expended all that time so don't.
***Do this:***
1) You need to run a Win XP with a TBSC 4161S driver installed on the XP partition/drive. 1 primary and 1 extended with a logical partition for your Vista partition and they will both "see" each other as they are both active. That is the only way the Turtle Beach recommended method will work.
The drivers come from here: http://www.turtlebeach.com/site/kb_ftp/585ftp.asp
2) Then install the 4193 TBSC driver on ole Vister. It'll install the software and may error out on the unsigned driver, but don't sweat the error.
3) Then on Vista, Before rebooting, go to Device Manager and manually update the Santa CruzT or the Multimedia Audio Controller that is possibly question marked. Browse to the Program Files\Turtle Beach\Santa Cruz\Driver\WDM folder on the XP partition and Device Manager's wizard will install the signed 4161s on Vista as well as the XP boot.. BTW you'll find that many drivers that are difficult to get Vista to accept, will be installed just fine if you select on the wiz "I'll install from my own location" then browse to where the driver files are located.
4) You must install this VTBSC control panel for this little equation to work.
5) Copy the Santa Cruz Control Panel from your XP drive where it is installed, for example if XP were installed on C:\ to the drive or partition where Vista is installed. On C:\ this would be located at C:\Program Files\Turtle Beach\Santa Cruz\Control Panel
6) Reboot and you have sound and you can use that Turtle Beach card for anything that the descendants of Jim Allchin will throw atcha.
Good Luck,
CH
"mindspin311" wrote in message I have a turtle beach santa cruz sound card, and it's the only thing left that still doesn't work. Anyone had any luck getting this to work? Any drivers out there anyone knows of?

On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 00:14:47 -0400, "Chad Harris" wrote:

Milleron keep posting your medical pearls. I really treasure the opportunity to learn medical pearls from people in here that can't even find the crash cart for Vista and couldn't get into the door of a med school.
If and when you spent a day catching real patients in a real ER, you'd quickly learn the difference between passion for getting things fixed that weren't fixed in XP and superficial people who can only post cheap medical epithets who couldn't get in the door of amed school. Since this isn't as far as I can tell a medical forum,and you don't as far as I can tell have a hell of a lot of clinical medicine under your belt, why don't you enlighten us with your pearls on

Uhh ... I graduated from a "top-tier" medical school, and I'm double board-certified -- i.e., in a specialty and in a subspecialty. I have more than a quarter century of "clinical medicine under my belt." However, as you've apparently failed to understand, that's irrelevant because medical expertise has nothing to do with my response. The humorous pokes you're taking in this forum are because your posts really do smack of mania. They're not normal, Chad. When the group gets 3-500 posts per day, do you really think that ANYone is going to take the time to read your 3,000-word rants. In other words, it doesn't matter whether you're right or wrong because the terribly abnormal approach you take to Usenet means that no one is going to take you seriously, anyway. Get it???

SFC Win RE System Restore
in Vista. Could it be that your clinical medical expertise and your Vista expertise are equally lacking? Look forward to any of either herel. LOL
Post all the MSFT documentation on their sites for Win RE, SFC, and SR while you're at it. Working well are they?
As
far as I can tell the only post that gets music for the original poster using a Santa Cruz TB card and drivers is mine after ridiculous posts that they don't work. People who post from the experience in their imaginations really contribute. I like the "I don't think the driver will work because it's old" That's great computer science.
CH
"milleron" wrote in message Chad, you forgot to take your lithium today, didn't you?
On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 05:23:17 -0400, "Chad Harris" mail.MSFTturnssearchesovertogov.net> wrote:
My goodness gracious. I don't know how sober you are lately Mr. Barnhorst, but I have music on TBSC and this isn't a "rehab forum." Ask Rush Limbaugh where those are. This thread is about how to get sound in Vista via a Turtle Beach card. I would welcome all the ancillary methods you have and look forward to reading them soon. I posted it because I saw someone giving the advice it couldn't be done, and sound is as far as I can discern, important to people on a computer.
I take it you mean people who think they are hearing sound from a Santa Cruz card on Turtle Beach aren't sober? That they are under the influence of an intoxicating substance?
CH
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message Sober up.
"Chad Harris" <mail.MSFTturnssearchesovertogov.net> wrote in message ***Pssst Paula. Yes and it will be forever.** Oh noooooo--Paula! The guy needs his music.
What won't be forever is such a lame name like Vister for a Windoz OS. You can make TBSC work on Longhorn/Vister, Blackomb/Vienna and whichever ski resort MSFTies like to go and get 10 sheets to the wind at. What scares me about "Vienna" is a bunch of partying 'Softies' runnin around crazy and faced in the land of Motzart--just like at the Longhorn--a scary vision indeed.
You can make TBSC work perfectly on any build of Vister since they been hatchin it--what's also frightening is that they be half way through its gestation period, and fundamenatal components simply do not work in the crisp yuppily phrased gadget esconsed Redmond world that manufactured the meaningless term "feature complete". Also it's very premature to apply the Madison Avenue Seattle/Richland Washington phrase/mantra "clear, confident, and connected." We're far from anywhere near that. My gawd if I'm lookin' at all the features let's hope they are far from complete and very embryonic. I fear that this OS will be born with congenitally hypoplastic major organs at that rate it's going and hardly be viable--and its CPR tools are broken right now.
I wish, I wish I had a nickle for every sound expert including the BT's from Creative who proclaim that you can never get a VTBSC sound card workin in ole Vister. They is jist dead wrong. Of course ya can.
There is always teaching pearls in every workaround/mod/and adaptation on the fly and the one in this one is this here one :
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the drivers are WDM drivers then they should integrate with Vista (atm anyways)******* **They are WDM, but the key part of it this workaround is copying the control panel from XP to Vister; the control panel that comes with it since everything on it is hardware pbased the control panels manages it all**
Of course it will work Paula/Paula/Paula!!!!! remember Windows is made by that company that used to say "Where do ya wanna go" in it's banal/and supremely boring 35 minute XP commercial in setup. Now Google has paid Dell to camp out on some of that Vister setup real estate and desktop.
I'm fairly meek and awestruck with the plethora of computer/Windoz expertise on these newsgroups but of course you can make a Turtle Beach sound card work in Vista. Whatcha gotta learn is just cause them people says something and they are some kind of company on a web site--it don't gotta never be true. So I'll show ya how with all respectfulisms due to Ms. Paula from the scenic land of No Spam, Noneville. It ain't "no Turtle Beach Paula." It's absolutely Turtle Beach blaring on Vister.
Mindspin--let's
get the party started so you can upload music on your space and Paula can get up and dance to it. Santa Cruz made high quality sound cards. Yeah they made them when MSFT made the lowest quality OS on earth ME because the OEMs were hungry for profit and MSFT was willing to ship mush in a 16 bit/32 bit hybrid monstrosity called ME. That Billy and Jimmy Alchin could wave to those choppers off the Redmond campus with SEGs on their face shows ya how strong they are. There is Machiavelli in every forebrain.
If you follow these steps, you will get Santa Cruz Turtle Beach working in no time. I'd be glad to post proof that it does with the Vista notification area option icon and my VSCTB files and some tunes.
Here's
how:
If you have any problems or questions please post up in this here space and I'll help ya make Santacruz work. It works darn well in ole Vister. Unfortunately though, it looks like a plethora of crucial components are on a freight train not to work because of PM tin ears. Note that accountants like to call the shots at MSFT often instead of computer science trained engineers.
This here thing is pure unadulterated nonsense as to whether TB will work in ole Vister. http://support.turtlebeach.com/site/kb_ftp/585117847.asp What I done read is that it says new technologies has come; and that they retired the sound card drivers. That has zero to do with whether TB plays great music on Vister. This reference got a whole lotta stuff on VTBSC in it, but it's not necessary to read it--I just threw it in for a little context: http://support.turtlebeach.com/site/kb_ftp/585.asp
So to get you some music and sounds: (The Queen Latifah/Bill Gates couple launching MCE 2005 is one of my fave clips--chemistry exudes and a melding of the minds is just over the top with those two). I can see Queen Latifah focused like a laser on those Charles Petzold hex equations and feedback loops in Billy's head.
*How to Install VTBSC Sound Card on Vista***
BTW you will see ubiqutiously and more ubiquitiser on the web that people will refer you to try to use the Crystal Chip Set drivers--because Crystal makes the chip set for TBSC. The Turtle Beach Santa Cruz card uses